How Do Hedge Fund Managers Work Their Tax Magic ? Part 1 of a 2 Part Series ... Forbes

  In the minds of some, the most despicable current beneficiaries of legally proper, but morally reprehensible tax benefits are hedge fund managers.  I have never seen a hedge fund manager at work.  I’m going to speculate here and guess that if I could become invisible and follow one around during a typical work day I would observe someone hunched over a computer working the keyboard and the mouse, talking on the telephone, going to lunch with people, reading reports, speaking with people who come into the office, attending meetings.  In other words it would be a lot like following myself around all day.  Only the hedge fund manager would be wearing a better suit.  So why does the hedge fund manager get capital gains treatment on much of the manager’s earnings without having to invest any money or guarantee any debt?  I on the other hand have to invest money and guarantee debt and all my income is ordinary and subject to self-employment tax.  That’s what bugs people about hedge fund managers.  Well it bugs a lot of people.  It doesn’t bug me.  There are two reasons it doesn’t bug me.

CalPERS Asset Liability Management Workshop Segment 2

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is there any time limit for fund managers to inform the investor about the transfer of funds in MUTUAL FUNDS.?

If an investor shifts his funds from growth funds to debt funds or vice versa, is there any time limit prescribed for the fund manager to inform the investor to safeguard his interest?


If you're talking about mutual fund portfolio managers, they inform investors via their required quarterly and annual filings.

corporate law question about limited liability?

i know that limited liability ensures that the shareholder will only incur any debt of a corporation other than the value of his investment. So who does limited liability shift the risk to? The managers, the directors? Thanks for any help.


Your risk is still to the "members" of an LLC, because in most cases it is a huge investment.

If you are talking about as far as the risk of being sued. LLCs in most states are treated as entities separate from their members, whereas in other jurisdictions case law has developed deciding LLCs are not considered to have separate juridical standing from their members.

So in other words, it really depends upon the jurisdiction you are in. It could be all the LLC itself, or a select few (mainly appointed managers) that are at higher risk.

Help with a question on form!!Setting up a Limited Liability?

check box yes or no? see below. me only owner

"Check this box if one or more of the members of the company are to be liable for its debts and obligations under section 33-44-303. If one or more members are so liable, specify which member, and for which debts, obligations or liabilites such member are liable in their capacity as members"
The law
(a) Except as otherwise provided in subsection (c), the debts, obligations, and liabilities of a limited liability company, whether arising in contract, tort, or otherwise, are solely the debts, obligations, and liabilities of the company. A member or manager is not personally liable for a debt, obligation, or liability of the company solely by reason of being or acting as a member or manager.
(b) The failure of a limited liability company to observe the usual company formalities or requirements relating to the exercise of its company powers or management of its business is not a ground for imposing personal liability on the members


Check "NO". The beauty of an LLC is that no one is PERSONALLY liable for debts, obligations and liabilities of the company. That's why it is called a Limited Liability Corporation. It allows you to form and run a company and if something goes wrong, they can only take assets from that company and not you. Make sense? Let me know if I can be of further help - I just went thru this. In fact, I used www.mycorporation.com and filing thru them was a breeze! (and not too expensive, either - I paid $246.00 for a simple LLC.

What do you think about Obama's supporters being asked to pay for DNC campaign debt?

This is an e-mail from Obama's campaign manager. Needless to say I am not sending a penny and I was smart enough to vote for a 3rd party candidate.

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Our friends at the Democratic National Committee laid it all on the line to bring change this year.

We've been reviewing the books, and the DNC went into considerable debt to secure victory for Barack and Joe. It took unprecedented resources to staff up all 50 states, train field organizers, and build the technology to reach as many swing voters as possible.

It worked.

But it also left the DNC in debt. So before we do anything else, we need to help pay for this winning strategy.

Make a donation of $30 or more now and you'll get a limited edition 2008 Victory T-shirt.

Help the DNC and get a 2008 Victory T-shirt

The DNC's 50-state field strategy was crucial to our campaign's success, as well as victories for Democrats up and down the ballot. Their organizing infrastructure allowed us to compete -- and win -- in states that seemed insurmountable just four years ago.

They took out substantial loans to make it happen. The DNC didn't hold back, and now, neither can we.

You were there for this campaign when we needed to reach out to more voters and compete in more states. Now we're relying on grassroots supporters like you to come through for this movement once again.

We'll get to work transforming this country. But first, we need to take care of the DNC.

Please make a donation of $30 or more today and receive your Obama Victory T-shirt:
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Thank you for everything,

David

David Plouffe
Campaign Manager
Obama for America
http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/bellantoni/2008/Nov/11/obamas-plouffe-donate-to-the-dnc/


Unreal.....
They raised a RECORD $650 MILLION during the campaign, spent $5 million a day on ads, $20 million a week!!!!!!

They're asking supporters to pay?

And they have the nerve to rip on the RNC buying Palin's clothing, that was going to be donated to CHARITY?!?!?

Well, I guess I'm not surprised. This isn't the first time the public will be told to pay for something.


I think the message is a fake. I thought the DNC was rolling in dough.


Funny, the Palestinians, and Hesbula, having to pay the DNC debt?


Oh well thats what they get for spending all that money on promoting him!


I think it is funny, I think Barack should reimburse them, he had what 600 million to play with?


they probably will.
that's priceless
and ballsy.


It's fake mate. I know, I was part of the Obama camp in my area.


I got the same email a few days ago.

I thought Bin Laden had everything paid for already?

That was the deal - wasn't it?


We're free to say no


Desperate! you people are just making one more african american rich and famous.

Debt advice?

OK I'm in my early twenties and a student. I unexpectedly got laid off from my job in December and stupidly got talked into a bank credit card in August. I kept up really well with the payments until the end of January.

Anyway, I'm now in $925.00 in debt with my credit card. I owe $225 for the over limit fee, $91 for my minimum payment, and $174 for my other min. payment. I'm also in the negative numbers for my checking acct. ($394).

I feel so overwhelmed!

I had an interview at Fry's Electronics on Tuesday, and got all the way to the main manager in his officer interviewing me (only one other guy got to that point). I took a drug test Wed. morning. They said they'd call Friday (today) but they never did. But then they were expecting me to take it on Tuesday, but I did Wed. morning (still in the time frame).

Will I have bad credit if they do the check? Even though I kept the payments up for six months...and only am not now cuz I lost my job in Dec.?

Help! I'm soo stressed!!!!!!


If you are asked by your potential employers about your
liability in credit card, you can explain to them as explained
in your posting. You can tell them that you would be paying your debts out of your salary and settle the dues .

If you were indebted, because you were jobless , people will understand.
Your liability is not too large to worry you.


The only employers that really check your credit are like banks, and institutions like that. I dont think you have anything to worry about in the department, it might have been something else. Call around 11am on Monday morning and ask what is the status on the job offer.

Good Luck


dont stress so much, first off one bad credit card isnt gonna ruin ya for life especially since your so young.
secondly if you already took a drug test for this company - that means they have every intention of hiring you or else they wouldnt have paid the money for you to take the test- so just sit tight and wait, as long as ya passed they will call.
In the mean time call your credit card company- dont avoid them cause thats the worse thing to do, just explain you were laid off and JUST started a new job (even if ya dont) and want to continue buisness with them except you cant pay it all at once, request a greivance for unexpected unemployement and see if they can possibley wave some of the over the limit fees. set up a payment plan- and make it reasonable to buy yourself a little time, maybe start with medium bulk payments in a month or small ones in a couple of week while asking them to keep in mind it will be a couple of weeks before you see a regular income.
and once you get a job- stick to it.
As long as you stick to the plan- it will effect your credit - but not quite as badly. And if you find yourself in a bind on making the payments - call back cause like i said the worse thing you can do is avoid them, if you want to attempt to save your credit - you are best contacting the credit card company and trying to work something out no matter how demanding they are.


Hi,

I used "Credit Solution" to settle my debt and improve my credit score.They managed to reduce my debt up to 58% .It's legitimate.I came across this company on NBC News.Check it out here:

http://creditsolution.ez-mart.biz

Why do potential employers check your credit report?

I applied for a really nifty data entry position through an agency that hires directly to this company. I did everything awesomely. I passed the test they make you take, and have the background.

But the thing that may potential stop me from getting this job is my (atleast what I think is) bad credit. I haven't been able to keep up with my payments, mainly because I don't have a job. So without a job, I can't pay said bills that show up on a credit report. I am 2 months due on my car, and some of my credit cards are over their limit.

So my question is do they really care about debts or are they looking more for something like a deadbeat dad who hasn't been paying child support?

This is a data entry job that pays $10 an hour, not a corporate expense account manager who gets his own company credit card or something like that. I really need to take care of my bills, and want to with this job. I just hope this doesn't hold me from getting it.

Thanks!


They don't want to employ a deadbeat. They don't want your creditors calling and they don't want to have to garnish your salary. Also, people who need money to pay their bills might be tempted to steal.

How can I recover this outstanding account?

We recently supplied goods to an exiting customer (limited company). Goods were signed and received in the exiting customers company name. Customer now disputing that he owes this money as he claims to have sold the business prior to the order being placed. The order was given to our agent by the shop manager who had always placed the orders. We have asked the Director of the company on several occassions to supply the name & address of the people who he claims to have sold the business to but so far he has not been forth coming with the information. He will no longer answer our calls therefore it seems to us like he is trying to pull a fast one. The address which we have delivered to is now empty - addressee 'gone away' .Is it best just to go ahead with a County Coiurt Summons to the company and have the paperwork served at the registered office address? the debt totals 1.8k inc vat


either that or hire a private enquiry agent to chase down the "new owners".

GL, I suspect you'll need it

how do you teach grown men morals? (Snap-on field managers) These guys picked a path other than honor!?

I've tried legal but lawyers i believe to be bought off. Now an appeal to as much attention as possible. All I want is to be paid back for promises made and repayment for all weird things that have happened to me. It is not paranoid, I have proff but no lawyer and out of money. Oh, I waited 7 months to have a lawyer quit me 2 weeks before depositions. He quit me when I asked about what to do when all the suspension bolts were loosened on my pickup. I spend limited time with my children because of such happenings. This is not to say a billion dollar company like Snap-on Tools inc. has anything to do with it but all started when i posted a law action. I just want my life back, pay my debts and try to make up for lost time with my sons. Please only answer if your heart is pure. Check out all my Q and A and notice when i answer how many responses came when i listed a certain answer


try getting an out of state lawyer that will take the case on a contingency fee that means he doesnt get paid untill you win and if you dont win he doesnt get paid

State : Neither Samaritan Nor Solomon ?? Mises?

If you say that government is too big and truly overweening, you elicit a surprising degree of agreement among people, even mainstream columnists, economists, and nearly everyone. Even government employees, who famously resent their bosses, might be quick to agree. If you hang outside the offices of the IRS in Washington, D.C., in the park at noontime where its employees take their lunch, you will get an earful of vitriol against the bureaucracy such as you wouldn't hear outside 1990s militia circles.
Incidentally, the government is having a terrible time recruiting employees. Only 16% of college-educated workers say that they are interested in a government job. Among those without a college degree, there is twice the level of interest. Among people currently employed, those with managerial or professional occupations show a low interest level of 17%.
Among those who want work to be challenging and enjoyable, only 9% thought a government job qualified. And, interestingly, among those who say they want to make a contribution to society, 90% said that non-government work in the private sector, whether for profit or non-profit, is the way to go.
Now, what this means is that the smart set avoids government. Government work might still be attractive to people with fewer economic opportunities, but they are entering it for reasons that are not ideological. And for that reason too, they are less loyal to the public sector and glad to bail out if something else comes available.
Most people view this as a very bad trend. I would only say that it is a significant trend, especially considering that in the heyday of government central planning, government sought to attract the best and the brightest. Often it did. Now, one might argue that if government were doing what it should be doing, this would be a good thing. But if government is doing many bad things, it is certainly not a bad trend for it to experience a brain drain.
It is always a tragedy to see smart and entrepreneurial men and women be attracted away from productive employment in the private sector toward a position of power in the public sector. It makes us poorer to have the talents drained away from wealth creation toward wealth destruction. As for the very few good people in politics — Ron Paul is the great exception that proves the rule — they are true public servants only insofar as they work to diminish government power rather than increase it.
So long as government is large and overweening, we are better off with a public sector that cannot attract the best and brightest. They should stay put where they can continue to expand the range of goods and services offered within the market framework. It is the market that provides us the means necessary to improve our standard of living, and the tools we need to maintain some degree of independence from the state.
We often rail against incompetence in government. But before we go too far with this language, we need to consider that competence in government may be a far worse fate. We don't need genuinely competent antitrust enforcers, drug and food regulators, tax collectors, money manipulators, labor-law interventionists, gun grabbers, and environmental police. As H.L. Mencken said, we should be thankful that we don't get all the government we pay for.
To be sure, we are paying far more today for government than ever before. Consider the real annual growth rate of total government outlays by presidents. Under Nixon, it was 3%. Under Carter, it was 4.1%. Under Reagan, 2.6%. Under Bush's dad, 1.9%, a figuring owing to the cuts in military spending. Domestic spending soared. Under Clinton, whom we all denounced as a socialist, it was 1.5%, the lowest rate in the postwar period. And under the present Bush, who promised less government? The real annual growth rate of total government outlays has been 5%, which compares to Johnson-era spending.
The old rationales for government growth may have been discredited in the public mind. But they are alive in Washington, among the special interest groups, and among the media. I would like to identify the main ones.
Rationale Number One: The Good Samaritan State. In this view of government, the state should act like the third person to come upon the poor man who had been beaten and robbed. They imagine a population that is divided among three types of people: victims, victimizers, and those who refuse to help.
The victim classes we know all too well, because the litany is said again and again within the structure of labor law: the elderly, the very young, ethnic and racial minorities, religious minorities, sexual minorities, the physically and mentally disabled, workers, the underpaid, people in rural areas, those who deal with urban overcrowding, people who breathe dirty air or eat chemically produced products, artists, the manufacturing industry, people with peanut allergies, the dyslexic, short people, fat people, the leisure deprived, and I've probably left out a hundred or so other groups.
Among the victimizers, we similarly have a list: capitalists, racial and ethnic majorities, sexual majorities, the overpaid, managers and CEOs, people who live in gated communities, the well armed, consumers of cell phones, owners of mines, anyone living off a trust fund, fully abled men, and anyone who resents social managers telling them what to do.
In the view of those who advocate the Samaritan State, these two classes of victims and victimizers are constantly at war. There is nothing but conflict between them. The loss of one is the gain of the other. These categories are fixed and unchanging. The lack of harmony of interests is built into the structure of the social and economic world. The remedy requires an institution that is relentlessly engaged in reweighing the power relationships between the two groups. The conflict cannot be finally ended, but justice requires that the victims are given an unending stream of compensation and that the victimizers are treated with disdain and punished for their very existence. Social justice thus requires that victimizers are reduced, disabled, denounced, and spat upon, while the victims must be exalted, fed, clothed, funded, and made whole.
This is how the Left, broadly speaking, thinks the world works, and should work. It doesn't matter whether one considers oneself a hard Marxist or a soft social democrat, the intellectual tie that binds them together is the view that conflict and not cooperation characterizes the work of society in the absence of an institution dedicated to bringing about social justice.
The institutional answer is, of course, the state. The state is the Samaritan who lifts up and exalts the meek, and smites the proud and powerful who would otherwise walk right past the poor person on the street, who is the very archetype of the victim in the leftist view of how the world works.
But there are many things wrong with this view of society. In the parable, the victim was beaten and robbed. He was exploited only in a very narrow and old-fashioned sense: his person and property were violated. These are crimes against libertarian ethics, a system of thought that mirrors what every religious and ethical system has taught: do not kill and do not steal. In other words, he was not a victim of some hazy notion of Social Injustice.
He was not discriminated against, exploited by an employer, made to work long hours, or denied a comfy living in his old age. There is a huge difference between being beaten and robbed, and having to pay high prices for prescription drugs. The great error of the Left is its inability to distinguish the injustice of violence from the supposed injustice of inequality of material condition.
As for the Samaritan, he was not acting as an agent of the regime. He used his own money to help the victim. He got him back on his feet and paid his bills at the private clinic where he was deposited for care. The Samaritan did not rob someone else to give money to the man on the street. He presumably got his money justly by hard work and investment. He had no desire to keep the man dependent, nor to exercise power over him, tax him, regulate him, nor send him to war.
The state is something very different. It has no income but that which it robs from someone else. It seeks its own gain at others' expense. It protects itself and promotes itself before the interests of everyone else. It is beholden to special interests who create and control its regulatory apparatus. It is not impartial. It sides with its friends over its enemies. Moreover, the state is an exploiter, a murderer, a violator of human rights.
The typical response of the Left is to say that they want a state that does only good things such as share and care, and not bad things such as steal and kill. But this cannot be. We might as well wish for a lion that only purrs and cuddles, or a rattlesnake that only provides percussion accompaniment to mariachi music. The very nature of the state is that it exists only through and for compulsion. To imagine otherwise is not to face reality.
Rationale Number Two: The Solomonic State. In the Bible we are told that King Solomon had "understanding exceeding much and largeness of heart, even as the sand that [is] on the sea shore." And his "wisdom excelled the wisdom of all the children of the east country, and all the wisdom of Egypt." He was "wiser than all men" and "his fame was in all nations round about." He spoke "three thousand proverbs: and his songs were a thousand and five." He "spake of trees, from the cedar tree that [is] in Lebanon even unto the hyssop that springeth out of the wall: he spake also of beasts, and of fowl, and of creeping things, and of fishes. And there came of all people to hear the wisdom of Solomon, from all kings of the earth, which had heard of his wisdom."
Now, I'm not here to dispute the Bible's account of Solomon's wisdom. But let us also recall that Solomon's rule later became close to tyrannical. His son Rehoboam inherited his power, and when the people begged for relief from Solomon's "heavy yoke," and instigated a full-scale crackdown: "My father scourged you with whips; I will scourge you with scorpions."
To be wise and prudent is not characteristics of rulers. In fact, it is very dangerous to hope that they may be. If we set out to find such a person, and have fantastic power available to him when we believe he has arrived, we have set up the framework for tyranny. The founders knew that no man can be trusted with power. They attempted to construct a system that presumed that men were corruptible, and that there would be some means to dislodge them when their corruption showed.
Still, today many people long for the Solomonic State as a means of dispensing justice. Unlike the Samaritan model, the goal here is not charity but the just wielding of the sword on behalf of the right and true. Thus should we seek out righteous men of learning and moral character who know what evil is and have the courage to stand up to it and destroy it. This model is what inspires this mentality.
There are many problems with this model. One man might be very wise, even the wisest of all men. But as F.A. Hayek might remind us, all the accumulated knowledge in the head of one person is still infinitesimal as compared with the wisdom that emerges through social cooperation on the marketplace. We can consider the price of any good on the market as it stands right now, and know that this one price results from the accumulated decisions of millions of people across thousands and thousands of sectors of economic activity spread throughout the world. The knowledge is dispersed in a million directions and results from small decisions and actions by economic actors. But the result is a single indicator that assists in allocating resources better than any single mind could ever do.
The model of the Solomonic State also imagines that somehow the social order we see around us cannot possibly have come about without a single will operating in society, some firm hand that has designed the order and keeps it running smoothly. People who think this way imagine that in the absence of this firm hand, there would be nothing but a Hobbesian state of nature, where society is a war of all against all and life is nasty, brutish, and short.
Our age is notably lacking in the likes of Solomon, and so those who fear the Hobbesian state of nature turn to the managerial state to act wisely in the interest of justice and order, at home and abroad. They might not always like what the rulers do, but they consider the alternative to despotism more fearsome. They warn about the dread results of anarchism and liberty, where people senselessly kill and rob without consequence. They fear this liberty more than they fear the abuses of power.
This, I submit, is the mentality of many conservatives and many on the Right. We see it in the affections they have for Bush, the Patriot Act, the war on terror, and how quickly people fall for any leader who uses Manichean rhetoric in defense of the latest nationalistic crusade.
What these people need more than anything else is a familiarity with the insights of the old liberal tradition as represented by Jefferson, Bastiat, Mises, Hayek, and Rothbard. They need to come to see how order is not the mother of liberty but its daughter. They need to see how society is harmonious not because of the state but because of the prevalence of human cooperation in the marketplace, where people work to trade to their own mutual betterment.
People who fail to understand this become the unwitting servants of tyranny, particularly in the modern age when it is so obviously not wise but stupid and violent and presumptuous. They imagine that the state can posses godlike powers and bring justice and order, but they end up only empowering the worst elements in society, bringing injustice, and chaos.
Now, you might say that the old liberal view of society is naïve. It might be in people's interest to learn to trade rather than steal but we live in a fallen world. If not for some overarching controlling force, people would loot each other unrelentingly and kill for fun. Now, to this I can say that it is true that some societies have not learned to make trading and peace significantly more prevalent than violence and killing. History is strewn with examples.
The question we have to ask ourselves is whether a society that fails to learn the art of civilization will erect and sustain a state that will impose civilization on the people. I submit that history also teaches that when a people are brutal and uncivilized, the state is even more so. The state is rarely and maybe never better than the people it rules; in fact, it is almost always worse.
Rationale Number Three: Log-Rolling. Given these two very different conceptions of the state, one favoring the welfare state and the other favoring a warfare state, why don't the visions cancel each other out? So intense is the desire of one group to have the state that it wants that it is willing to put up with another group's desire for its conception of the state. The two conceptions decide to cooperate and erect a state that purports to behave both like Solomon and like the Samaritan. That is the origin of the guns-and-butter state, or the welfare-warfare state, or the modern state as we know it, one that purports to meet every need.
We see how this log-rolling works every day on Capitol Hill. One group wants more money for tanks and weaponry, and the other wants more for Medicaid and education. If both agree that politics is the art of compromise, they will put up with the other group's priorities in order that their own vision can be fulfilled.
On the Right, we find that the love for the police power is more intense than the hatred of redistribution. On the Left, we find that the love of redistribution is more intense than the hatred of war and leviathan. They therefore work together to erect a massive and ever-growing executive. They are similarly unwilling to oppose the state in total. They fear that in doing so, the state as an institution will be discredited, and their conception of what the state should do along with it. Neither side particularly loves big government but both sides agree that it is better than the alternative of letting people alone. So they log-roll to support the public sector above all else, even when it means that they must sleep with their ostensible political enemies.
Rationale Number Four: The Inflationary State. Now we come to the reason this system is able to perpetuate itself. And there is something of a mystery to explain here. No people anywhere will put up with a leviathan that grows and grows forever. At some point, the problem of funding state expansion will result in too much violence against property, and the people will revolt. Indeed, if the federal government had to collect all its revenue through a tax of any kind, leveled right now against the public, I submit to you that it would spark a tax revolt on a scale never before seen in modern history.
Thus do we have the central bank to create money for the state. Thus do we have paper money that can be created in unlimited quantities. Thus do we have deposit insurance to make banks failure proof, so that the masses will never doubt that the credit pyramid is immortal. Thus do we have the Fed's power to manipulate interest rates and control the flow of credit to the system.
An economist at Lehman Brothers sent us an interesting chart the other day. It compares the level of price increases across many Fed regimes. Under the first Fed governor Charles Hamlin, the dollar declined 8% in value. Under Thomas B. McCabe from the late forties, it declined 7.2%. Under Arthur Burns, wholly owned by Nixon, the dollar declined 42% in value. Under Volcker, Mr. Tight Money, it fell 40%. And under Greenspan, who has a reputation as a great inflation fighter, the value of the dollar in terms of goods and services fell fully 44%!
Inflation serves the cause of the state by giving it room to run up debts without limit and fund its activities without making the people cough up more revenue. Indeed, that is the primary purpose of the inflationary state. People often say to me that a gold standard is impractical. In fact, that is not the case. It is very practical. It is the free-market answer. The state doesn't need to produce money any more than it needs to produce shoes or shirts or clocks. The problem is that we lack the political will to stop the inflation monster.
Rationale Number Five: The Propaganda State. In every society control of educational institutions increases in tandem with the rise of the state. This is because the state needs these institutions to inculcate the civic religion of loving the public enterprise, and also because the less people know about the idea of liberty the more the state is provided the room to grow.
Consider the Department of Education. Ever since its creation, every Republican administration has come to power with an intention to abolish it. But once they get in power, they find that bureaucracy has its uses. Instead of cutting or abolishing it, they increase the agency and give it more to do. The more the state does, the more the state sees the need to control public opinion by controlling the schools.
Now, there is a point of optimism here. If any state could rule without propaganda, it would surely do so. Why then do states find educational control and the propagation of the civic religion in their interest? Because at some level, every state, in all times and places, is required to seek the tacit consent of those it governs. No state can control a society by use of the sword only and alone. It must also seek some degree of ideological conformity with its own goals. Otherwise its rule becomes threatened and destabilized.
The other side of the coin is that states can indeed be destabilized by the ultimate counterrevolutionary tactic of providing alternative sources of education. As Mises said, all of history is a battle of ideas. Where the ideas of freedom are triumphant, liberty prevails. Where the ideas of freedom are buried and suppressed, despotism prevails.
Our pathway is clear. It is a choice of the Mises Institute not to mix in the mire of a political system that is wholly owned or attempt to seek favor from influential opinion makers. Our path is one of education, pursued with high-minded ideals, advanced using the most modern methods, and animated by the spirit of guerilla warfare. There are Misesians and Rothbardians strewn throughout the academic world, financial and banking houses, law firms, and in every walk of life, not only in this country but all over the world.
We have worked for nearly a quarter of a century on a very radical project of advancing economic science and logic. We have pushed to keep the fire of freedom burning brightly. We have sought to teach anyone and everyone about the workings and benefits of liberty. We have come under pressure from left, right, and center. Yet the attention given to this body of ideas grows by the day.
We can prevail against the Propaganda State. So long as we are free to do so and have the means available, we will continue to do so. This is our weapon against power. It is the most effective weapon anyone could ever possess. If we win this victory, we win all others.
We thank you for supporting education for liberty, and for being part of the revolutionary vanguard that sees through the errors of our day and imagines a brighter future of freedom, private property, and peace. : Mises Institute


Your question is too long. Learn to be succinct.

Going to see the bank manager tomorrow?

We are off to see our bank tomorrow to try and sort our finances, we are in a bit (well quite a bit then) of debt and have arranged a meeting with someone from bank to try and sort out paying back our overdraft and credit cards etc.
I just basically want some help on what to be saying & asking etc.
the bank we are with are charging us £125 a month for the fact we are over our overdraft limit, and then they wonder why when they charge us it takes us over it!
I need to be able to know what they could offer us what they can do to help and how to stop them charging so much as it isnt helping us finacially at all! and it is keeping us in debt! which i know banks do on purpose but we cant live like this forvever!
Kid emo - what does ur ansa mean?
RRM i am taking responsibility for my actions i arranged a meeting with the bank to sort this out! - but yeh if it makes u feel better being sooo stroppy then rock on u freak! sorry everyones not super rich like u obv are!


hi, go to abbey, they dont charge you nothing for your overdraft, if you use it's about 5.00 for 1,000 debt per month, i was with another bank and they were robbing bastards.......they charged me for anything and everything......one suggestion i would make is get a good money program, i have mircosoft money, bit of a pain at first putting everything in, but over 15 months I have cleared my 18,000 worth of debts, just hit my first 1,000 in my savings account and not been overdrawing in the bank for 4 months now....and owe nothing on nothing credit cards, loans,etc....and if feels great!!!!

Consumer Credit Counseling And Debt Management Plans

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Consumer credit counseling was as soon as a method individuals looked into after they thought bankruptcy could possibly be their only option. In fact, it was and is still needed that anybody who does declare bankruptcy complete a counseling course ahead of being given the go ahead by the courts. As a side note to buyer credit score counseling, it is found that several individuals can resolve their debt difficulties though a debt management plan instead. This kind debt relief process has helped hundreds of thousands toward a future of debt elimination.

The reason that debt management ends up being so a lot more successful than other sorts of counseling is due to the fact the outstanding bank card debt is actually lessened even though the restructuring of individuals outstanding loans. That is done through negotiations with credit counseling, who turn into convinced how the client is likely to declare bankruptcy, in which situation they may receive practically nothing at all toward what is due them. There’s an incentive for them to agree to new amounts, and there is certainly incentive on the part of the customer with this type of credit rating debt help.

Debt management programs do have specific qualifications that an individual must meet prior to they are able to be accepted into a program. In contrast to debt settlement, that’s for people inside most dire circumstances, this kind debt suggestions is for individuals with have a job or a steady stream of income. It’s for people who have met with unfortunate circumstances as a salary cut, major medical bills or other unforeseen issues that have effected their funds and budgeting. It is not for those who merely could by no means preserve to a budget. This is a charge card debt product that a single has to jobs tough at, but a single that has the end goal of eliminating debt.

It takes a great debt manager to give the client the right sort help with bank card debt relief. It is all about helping to establish a very good discipline for saving money, for then negotiating with creditors and for keeping the customer informed and aware of progress. By picking a great debt management office, the client is informed of what they have to do, about debt relief tax, and about how and once their creditors are paid off. Most can complete – depending on the amount of outstanding credit history loans – a technique within three to five years.

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