The Office Recap: Murder Cinema Blend

Ok, so I know Ive been flip-flopping all over the place on my opinions of The Office this season but in my own defense, Im just calling it like I see it. Koi Pond and Mafia were, in this humble writers opinion, weak episodes. Last weeks Double Date episode brought in a lot more laughs and tonights Murder succeeded in bringing the show back to familiar ground, while also incorporating some new stuff.

Kudos to writer Danny Chun ( The Simpsons ) and series creator Greg Daniels for his direction on the episode. What wasnt to love about Murder? There was mystery, suspense, humor and some good, old-fashioned, job security paranoia! Hey, plenty of us have been there right? Word gets around that the companys not doing so hot and everyone starts to get that nervous feeling in their stomachs as they wonder whether or not updating their resume would jinx the situation.

Tonights episode was a great demonstration of how differently Jim and Michael think as it pertains to their work. Michaels tendency to panic in the face of uncertainty clicked on immediately after the staff found out that the company might be filing for bankruptcy. After reading the article in the Wall Street Journal (as opposed to Michaels Feelings Journal, which is stored safely away in the time capsule), Michael holed himself up in his office listening to music as Jim attempted to re-establish some sense of normalcy around the place.

Jims approach to push the staff back to work and create a business-as-usual atmosphere seemed like a reasonable plan and for all we know, it might have worked. But Michael intervened, drawing the staff into a whodunit murder mystery. And the distraction proved to be as successful as waving a string in front of a cat. While the staff batted their paws at the dangling string (and Creed took off after showing up late in the game and instantly believing he was an actual murder suspect), they forgot all about their jobs. Then Oscar delivered an update on the situation that brought them all back to reality.

In the end, Jims attempt to get things back on track backfired on him and him alone. Michael refused to be drawn back to reality, insisting on maintaining his fake southern accent and refusing the returned call from David Wallace. So Jim took the call and Wallace confirmed that it seemed the company would be out of money by the end of the year. Jim desperately tried to maintain his own level of normalcy by talking about a big account idea he had but Wallace had to go because if the companys on the verge of bankruptcy, the CFOs probably going to be busier than usual. It seemed Jims effort to keep things chugging along was not only fruitless, but now hes going to be more worried and stressed than everyone else.

Jim couldve shared the stressful news to the rest of the staff. He could have unloaded that weight on everyone else and let the office return to an uproar of nervousness and paranoia, but he didnt. Instead, he diverted to Michaels approach, lied to the staff by saying there were no updates and started up a new murder game.

Its always strange when Michael turns out to be right. As I said earlier, Jims approach to the situation seemed like a good one but in the end, do the DM staffers really need the minute-to-minute updates on the situation? Is knowing just how bad the companys doing at this point going to do them any good? Sure, if it seems truly inevitable that the companys going under, they should know but in the meantime, maybe a little distraction isnt such a bad thing.

In other news, Andy made the mistake of using the game as a way to ask Erin out. He made the request while he and she were both still in character and later continued the cute flirtation. And then, thinking she wasnt really serious, he backed off and it turned out, Erin did think he was really asking her out. I am loving

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After filing bankruptcy, you may actually look better to a creditor, a forgotten idea that bankruptcy lawyer Kevin Chern explains in more detail ...

Did u file bankruptcy & your lawyer forget to include some of your debts?

and you had to pay for them after you came out of bankruptcy?


No. I don't think so. I found we had one that didn't get filed, and I searched for it on the internet. If I understood it correctly, the courts have ruled that debts that existed before a bankruptcy are considered to be forgiven in the bankruptcy even if they accidentally weren't included in the bankruptcy. (link below)

If somebody is trying to collect, then check back with the lawyer that you used.


Did you tell him about those debts? Did you review the paperwork as you were supposed to? All of your debts are supposed to be on the bankruptcy, even the ones you wish to reaffirm. You should check with an attorney because you may have to go back to court and amend your filing.

Debts are not wiped now as they used to be unless you qualify under a very narrow set of standards. So you must repay some or all of your debts.


if the lawyer forgot the debts it doesn't matter as long as you didn't acquire them after you filled. any debt acquired before you filled should be covered. call your lawyer you paid for his services and he has to answer them. just because he filed the papers doesn't mean that he is done. send the bankruptcy papers to the collectors, and call your lawyer.


Your responsibility to let the atty. know all your creditors. Your responsibility to check your list of creditors to make sure they are all listed. Was it a chapter 13 or 7? One of your answerers said they would be forgiven anyway- not true, if you did not list them & continued to pay (re-affirmed the debt) then it can not be "forgiven"- you should talk with the attorney who handled your bankruptcy.


No, this seems to be a lack of attention on your part. I know for a fact that my bankruptcy lawyer made sure that I had a copy of all of my debts before we filed. I was even going through a divorce so it was hard to gather all of that information.


I am in the process of filing a Ch. 13 BK in California right now. (That is a 5 year repayment plan; not a write-off BK, so everyone is still getting paid!) In my case, my attorney does not run a credit report without being authorized. (I already had a copy of my credit report, so I didn't need him to run another.) It was MY responsibilty to provide the names, account numbers, balances, etc. to the attorney to include in the BK Petition. The Petition was reviewed and signed by me before the attorney will file it with the court. I even removed some of the creditors so that my monthly payment was reduced to something I actually could afford. Basically, I had all my big major accounts in there and kept out some of the little one that I will pay-down on my own.

What happens is that no one can wage garnish you after it is filed as long as they are listed on your BK papers. It stops all late fees and interest on accounts. You can add or change what was filed for an additional fee (at least in CA, I'm not sure what state you are in.)

I hope this helps!

Should I file Bankruptcy or Not?

I have a total of $10,000-$13,000 unpaid, charged off, bad debt in total. This amount is for Bally's fitness, Phone bills, small credit cards, small medical bills, unpaid rent, department store credit, a lot of little things that added up to this amount. Should I continue to establish the few good credit accounts that I have, even still with these excessive bad debts or just flat out file bankruptcy and forget everything. I hear when you file bankruptcy your credit life is TOTALLY over. No one will never give you anything ever. I have a couple of good accounts but 90% bad accounts. Bankruptcy????
I AM 27 YEARS OLD, IF THIS WILL HELP YOUR SUGGESTIONS?


7 most important things about bankruptcy will help you get an answer.

1. Bankruptcy is process adopted by federal court process catering to individuals and businesses repay their debts or clear their debts under the protection of bankruptcy court. Also known as "reorganizations " or "liquidations", bankruptcy is often the last recourse to get out of any debt.

2. When the property of the debtor is sold to recover and pay off the debt it is called Chapter 7 bankruptcy. Contrary to popular belief, all the property owned by a debtor is not sold, some part of it is left with him to allow him to start afresh.

3. When there is no sale of property but the debt are reorganized so as the debtors, are able to repay them over a long period it is called Chapter 13 bankruptcy.

4. Both these types of bankruptcy have a large number of rules, and exceptions, suited to different kind of debts, individuals and other concerns.

5. The "ticket in" is counseling session that everyone who wishes to file a bankruptcy must attend. This session must be attended at least six months prior to filing for bankruptcy. This term was adopted in the new bankruptcy law. Read more about it at: http://www.credit-card-gallery.com/article/226,7_most_important_things_about_bankruptcy


i think u should..........


Your life isn't over... it just shows up on your bureau for at least 7 years. If it's discharged, it shouldn't be a problem.

Maybe consider credit counseling first before filing bankruptcy. They might be able to reduce or eliminate interest and stop collection calls...

Only problem with both of these is that you can't pick and choose what accounts are negotiated. it's all or nothing.


Don't file for bankruptcy. You're not in that bad a shape. Find a local nonprofit credit counselor to help you figure out how to gradually put a dent in the debt.


It might be in your best interest to file bankruptcy. If you do, your credit life is NOT totally over. It will take a couple of years to get your credit back but the bankruptcy will be on your credit report for 7 years from the time it is discharged. You do not have to claim everything in your bankruptcy. You can have your lawyer state which creditors you wish to include in your bankruptcy and which creditors you wish to "reaffirm" or continue to pay.

As a loan originator I have seen people who have filed bankruptcy with scores over 650 two years after filing. The reason that happens is because they have started to rebuild their credit by getting new credit or paying off the credit they kept prior to filing. I've even seen people buy houses 2 years after filing. You won't get credit as easily for at least 3-4 years after filing and you may have to prove yourself, but you can still get credit.

Filing might even help your credit if you already have bad credit or a horrible score anyway.


You should not in my opinion!
Your balance is low.

You should contact the "Collection" companies and settle for 50 cents on the Dollar. This is if you can pay for at least half of your balance.

Ask for a Deletion letter before you pay and make sure you get the letter first so you can send it to Credit Bureaus.

If you still decide to file for BK, after a couple of years, you should not have any problems, if maintain a good record.
Make sure you leave at least a couple of accounts open so you can keep building your credit back up.

Speak to an attorney.

Good luck.


how much do you make a year?
do you own a home?


The above posters who said BK will remain on your credit history for 7 years are incorrect - BKs remain on your credit history for 10 years.

At 27, BK is a very drastic step to take over only $13k in debt, especially if you make more than about $20k a year.

It can completely change your life - you will find it difficult to rent a place to live, so you will be stuck in your current rental for several years; you may be declined for jobs; if you own a car, your insurance rates may increase; etc.

If you want to declare BK, you are now required to go through credit counseling first. To find a credit counselor, go to www.nfcc.org It is the website for the National Foundation for Credit Counselors, an agency that accredits credit counseling agencies. This way you can find an agency that has been certified that they do not rip off customers.

The credit counseling agency can give you advice based on your specific income and debts.


I could use just a bit more info before recommending anything.

Do you own a home/car?
Do you currently have a job/income?

If you read my past answers, you will notice I do not shy away from recommending bankruptcy to people. But I also hate to see people with a small amount of debt do it.

If you have a job or income, you will not qualify for a Chapter 7. If you own a car/home it will also make it harder. But if you rent and have low income this may be a good option. But remember, Chapter 7 costs you more, and with the required credit counseling can cost you well over $1000. I'm working with someone how trying to scrape up $2000 for their BK.

The best test as to whether you should file BK is this. If you were to sit down and right out a VERY strict budget....cancel your cable TV, no more dining out or entertainment, etc....how much "disposable income" will you have left to pay toward your debts? With $13,000 in debt, to pay this off in 3 years you will need $360 a month.

Next, you need to contact every creditor and make a proposal. If all of these creditors will agree to work with your 3 year budget, PLUS agree to delete any negative credit items on your report, then this would be your best way to go.

Another thought...since most of these debts are not very big, it's not likely they will be suing you for them. Few creditors sue for debts of $500 or less. Only when they approach $2000 do you need to begin worrying. So if your credit score is not that big an issue, there are other courses of action you can take.

If you need more advice feel free to drop me a line. Sometimes just having an outsider look your situation over, you can come up with a solution. I just don't like seeing people file BK for under $20k in debt.


I know someone who's filed for bankruptcy and still able to get car loans, although @ higher interest rates. If you do chapter 7 bankruptcy, it's like a clean slate so you can start to rebuild your credit. Go to your state bar association's website and look up bankruptcy info before you go that route. I wouldn't recommend it if you have a decent job and your debt isn't huge like over $20,000.
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